Author: Christopher Fleischman 9/20/2023
I believe everything in the Holy Bible Douay-Rheims version and believe that God created all things in six days and rested on the seventh. I also believe 2 Peter 3:8 “But of this one thing be not ignorant, my beloved, that one day with the Lord is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.” I believe that St. Peter said “1000 years” to imply “many years”.
In the following you will see that I believe one day with the Lord is more like several Billion years, and here is why.
Genesis 1:1 “In the beginning God created heaven, and earth.”
Genesis 1:14 “And God said: Let there be lights made in the firmament of heaven, to divide the day and the night, and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days and years: 15 To shine in the firmament of heaven, and to give light upon the earth. And it was so done. 16 And God made two great lights: a greater light to rule the day; and a lesser light to rule the night: and the stars.”
So on the fourth day of creation the sun, moon and the stars were created in the firmament of heaven, (the earth being created on day one before the sun). Back in 1672 Cassini was able to measure the distance from the earth to the sun with a telescope and using basic trigonometry called the parallax method.
After scientists determined the distance from earth to the sun they were then able to calculate distances to other stars using the same parallax method for stars up to about 1000 light years away. The parallax method does not use modern technology and I believe is trust worthy. Here is the website that I referenced. https://osr.org/blog/kids/measuring-the-earth-to-the-sun/
The scientists have calculated the closest star to earth called Proxima Centauri as being 4.25 light years from earth, meaning it takes 4.25 years for light to travel from that star to earth. The Orion Nebula is 1,344 light years away.
Adam and Eve were created on day six; two days after the sun, moon, and stars were created. Adam lived for 930 years (Genesis 5:5), so if the Orion Nebula was created literally 48 hours before Adam, then Adam and Eve would never have seen it. In fact for the first 4.25 years of their life, they would have seen no stars at all; just the sun, moon and some planets. After about 100 years they would have seen the Big Dipper, and after about 323 years they would have seen the North Star for the first time.
I tend to think that God allowed Adam and Eve to see the stars He created as we see them simply because the very reason why God created all these things, were for man, just as man is created to honor God. Otherwise, if Adam and Eve looked up to the sky at night, it would have been quite dark without the stars.
Of course, there are many other arguments one can use to show that the universe is older than when Adam and Eve were created, like the dinosaurs et, cetera but I will not get into that.
If my assumption is correct, this would imply that the stars were created at least 4.25 years before Adam and probably many millions of years before that. The furthest star that scientists have found they estimate to be about 28 Billion light years away. If this is true, then that star would had to have been created at least 28 Billion years ago in order for the scientists to now observe it.
But even if Adam and Eve only saw one star when they were created, that star had to have been created at least 4.3 years before Adam and Eve and not 48 hours before.
So this is what I think, but it is only my idea and I do not know for sure. It is based on what God the Father told St. Catherine of Siena. During this past lent, I was able to read the Dialogue of the Seraphic Virgin by Catherine of Siena one of only four women named doctor of the Church. God the Father told her, “I the Eternal God, am that Sun..” as indicated in this following quote from the Dialogue of the Seraphic Virgin. You may want to buy the book, I learned a lot from it. There is a pdf file on line at file:///C:/Chris/Catherine%20of%20Siena.pdf
Chapter 110: “To them have I given the Sun to administer, giving them the light of science and the heat of Divine Love, united together in the colour of the Body and Blood of My Son, whose Body is a Sun, because He is one thing with Me, the True Sun, in such a way that He cannot be separated or divided from Me, as in the case of the natural sun, in which heat and light cannot be separated, so perfect is their union; for, the sun, never leaving its orbit, lights the whole world and warms whoever wishes to be warmed by it, and is not defiled by any impurity on which it shines, for its light and heat and colour are united. " So this Word, My Son, with His most sweet Blood, is one Sun, all God and all man, because He is one thing with Me and I with Him. My power is not separated from His wisdom, nor the fiery heat of the Holy Spirit from Me, the Father, or from Him, the Son ; for He is one thing with us, the Holy Spirit proceeding from the Father and the Son, and We together forming one and the same Sun;that is to say, I, the Eternal God, am that Sun whence have proceeded the Son and the Holy Spirit. To the Holy Spirit is attributed fire and to the Son wisdom, by which wisdom My ministers receive the light of grace, so that they may administer this light to others, with gratitude for the benefits received from Me, the Eternal Father, following the doctrine of the Eternal Wisdom, My only-begotten Son. This is that Light, which has the colour of your humanity, colour and light being closely united. Thus was the light of My Divinity united to the colour of your humanity, which colour shone brightly when it became perfect through its union with the Divine nature, and, by this means of the Incarnate Word mixed with the Light of My Divine nature and the fiery heat of the Holy Spirit, have ye received the Light.”
So God is a Sun. Not a corporeal sun found in His creation, but the Divine Sun. Even in the litany to the most Holy Name of Jesus, it says, “Jesus Sun of Justice have mercy on us”.
When Genesis 1:5 says, “and there was evening and morning one day” although corporeal light was created on that day, it was not the first thing that was created, but rather first the heaven and earth were created so corporeal light could not have caused the morning for the first day.
I believe that God, who is the Divine Sun, shown forth His Light, and this was “the morning of the first day”, and created the heaven, earth and then corporeal light and when He had finished creating these things, He removed His Light and this is referred to as “the evening”.
I also believe that the time period between the evening of the first day to the morning of the second day could have been billions of years.
Then God shown forth His Light a second time, causing the morning of the second day and created all that was created on the second day, et cetera.
We also know that a new day is coming that will have no evening.
Psalm 103:30 Thou shalt send forth thy spirit, and they shall be created: and thou shalt renew the face of the earth.
Apocalypse 21: 23 And the city hath no need of the sun, nor of the moon, to shine in it. For the glory of God hath enlightened it, and the Lamb is the lamp thereof. 24 And the nations shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth shall bring their glory and honour into it. 25 And the gates thereof shall not be shut by day: for there shall be no night there.
Also, in the book titled “To The Priests Our Lady’s Beloved Sons” by Father Stefano Gobbi, the Virgin Mary said:
June 7, 1987: “I am the dawn which is arising to announce the arrival of the brilliant sun of Christ.”
In addition, from John Leary, who I believe is a true prophet, Jesus said on March 2, 1994 that during the 1000 years of peace, you will have love and peace in paradise as Jesus originally planned it for Adam. This will be a supernatural experience where we will see a vertical dawn with the sun coming from the side. It will be a time when the purified earth will be free of its present corruption. It will occur within your lifetime. It will be a joy for those faithful to live during this time. But it will come at a high price of endurance. With prayer and allegiance to Jesus’ Will, you will win the prize of salvation for your souls.
Considering all this information, the following is my personal idea on the way God created the universe.
God the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, are three Divine Persons in one God, and always existed. God had no beginning and will have no end.
When God decided to create, there was nothing else except God. “Nothing” itself is not a thing that exists. So God, who is a Divine Sun, shown forth His Light, causing the morning of the first day. This was probably a vertical dawn so it would have looked something like a door of infinite height slowly opening; allowing God’s Light to shine and He then created heaven, earth, and corporeal (natural) light.
Then the door began to close, and this was the evening of the first day. Then after Billions of years as we measure years, the door slowly opened again, causing the morning of the second day and God created the firmament, et cetera.
Well, that is my idea.
Here are some quotes from Jesus given to John Leary:
My people, everything, even the universe, revolves around Me because I am the center of creation
Saturday, December 31, 2011: (St. Sylvester I)
Jesus said: “My people, everything, even the universe, revolves around Me because I am the center of creation. St. John the Evangelist’s Gospel emphasizes My Divinity as the Son of God more than the other Gospels. He also speaks of the evil ones who are against Me as being antichrists. But there is one beast already on the earth that will be called ‘the Antichrist’. His declaration will begin the great tribulation which will last less than three and one-half years. His reign will be brief before I will come in victory over him with My Comet of Chastisement. It will be during the Antichrist’s reign of evil that I will direct My faithful to My places of refuge at places of My Blessed Mother’s apparitions, places of holy ground, and caves. At My refuges you will see My angels of protection, and the luminous crosses that will heal all of your infirmities. Be grateful that My faithful are preparing havens of safety for My faithful remnant. Trust in My protection as I will provide for all of your needs both physical and spiritual.”
You do not have order come out of chaos or chance. All of the planets (which includes the earth) are in elliptical orbits around the sun, similar to how atoms have electrons orbiting the nucleus.
Sunday, January 31, 2016:
Jesus said: “My people, today the priest was talking about how the Blessed Trinity created the universe, the earth, man and woman, and all the plants and animals as in Genesis. There are many atheists who do not believe the true creation account, and they even mock My believers for doing so. Those people, who do not believe in God, are the promoters of Darwin’s theory of the origin of species. It is true that there are mutations within each specie, and sometimes you artificially cross-breed some animals and plants. There is order in My universe, and among the plant and animal kingdoms. You do not have order come out of chaos or chance. All of the planets are in elliptical orbits around the sun, similar to how atoms have electrons orbiting the nucleus. There is intelligent design from God in everything. Darwin’s Theory is only a theory, meaning it is not actual fact, and cannot be proven. There is no proof that one set of chromosomes could go to a higher number in an animal or a plant. Evolution or mutations can only occur within one specie, but not between different species. Men and women are also made in My image with a soul and a free will. This spiritual part of man is far above Darwin’s explanations, because the body and this earth are passing away, but the soul lives on forever. So trust in My account of creation, and not the imperfect knowledge of man’s theories.”
It is hard for man to comprehend how I could create an infinite universe.
Thursday, April 11, 2019: (St. Stanislaus)
Jesus said: “My people, in St. John’s Gospel I told the Jews that before Abraham came to be, I AM. You read in the first reading how I changed Abram’s name to Abraham because I was making him a father of nations, and his descendants will be as numerous as the stars of the heavens. I existed for all time before Creation because the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit created the universe and all that is on the earth. It is hard for man to comprehend how I could create an infinite universe. It is even harder to understand how I could make Myself into a God-man. When Adam and Eve sinned, all of humanity inherited original sin, and a punishment of death. I promised mankind through My prophets that I would come as a Redeemer to save you from your sins. The Jews knew of a promised Messiah, but they did not want to believe that I am the author of all life. They knew I AM represented the Name of God, and they wanted to stone Me for blasphemy. You are about to witness My Crucifixion and death on the cross in Holy Week. I suffered death in reparation for your sins, and I resurrected to heaven because I conquered death and sin. I also have left My Real Presence in My Eucharist so you can receive My Body and Blood at every Mass, because I AM is present to you for all time.”
Not only is the universe beautiful, but it is hard to comprehend an endless number of stars.
Wednesday, August 1, 2012: (St. Alphonsus Liguori)
Jesus said: “My people, during the day the sun blots out the stars, and you see a beautiful blue sky. At night with a clear sky, you can see thousands of stars and even distant galaxies with the help of a large telescope. Each star is like your own sun that gives off light from its nuclear furnace. When you study the sun, the planets, and the stars, you see a huge universe that shows you how small the earth is relative to all other celestial bodies. What is unique to earth is the abundance of life with all of its water at the right temperature and the right distance from the sun. Not only is the universe beautiful, but it is hard to comprehend an endless number of stars.Man cannot really understand the true meaning of infinity or eternity because you have little reference of time in this life. Man’s lifetime is fortunate to even reach a hundred years, but this does not even scratch the surface of eternity. Remember your soul is immortal, and it will live on outside of time. You only have two final destinations of either heaven or hell. Once you are judged to one place, your soul will be there for all eternity. Even if you have to suffer in this life, it is worth it to be able to be with Me in heaven forever. You have seen hell, and no one would choose such a horrible eternal destination. Even when people see this possibility at the end of their lives, they will have one last opportunity to love Me and be saved. It is hard to imagine that some souls are so blinded by evil and pleasures that they would choose hell. I desire that all souls would love Me and would want to come to heaven. Those souls, who love Me, will have to suffer much in this life, and they may need to suffer in purgatory to be purified. But the end choice will bring them to the beauty of being with Me in total love for all eternity. This glorious reward is well worth any amount of suffering you may have to suffer to gain heaven.”
Creation from nothing can only come from My power.
September 3, 2014 Jesus said: “My people, it is true that many Christians are under attack by their college professors for believing in My existence. I am proud of those students who stand up for their belief in Me, even though they risk persecution for doing so. You have read how professors in college have been expelled for believing in Me, even when they minimize Me as an intelligent design. A good point was made about all of you being created with free will in My Divine Image. I do not force My love on you, but I showed My love for all of you by dying on the cross for your sins. You have free will to love Me or not. The contrast of My creation of everything in Genesis to the ‘Big Bang Theory’ was revealing of the failed logic of your scientists. Creation from nothing can only come from My power. Where did all the hydrogen come from to make the stars? Your scientists have no answers, and they only have hard to imagine theories. The Darwin Theory (not proven) of evolution is another manufactured science. There may be mutations within species, but there is no proof that a lower form’s chromosomes could be increased to a higher form of an animal or a plant. This also can only come from My power of creation. The experience of heaven has been documented by some people with near death experiences. Also, My messengers, as yourself, have been gifted to see heaven, and they are able to share their experiences with others. Believe that I exist, as does the devil, hell, and heaven. I have shown you the joy of the saints and angels in heaven. You are all called to be saints, so you can be with Me in heaven for all eternity.”
It is man’s pride that has deformed things with the manipulation of the DNA that I made perfectly.
Friday, March 2, 2012:
Jesus said: “My people, when you look into the sky on a clear night, you are awestruck by the immensity of My creation of the universe and all of its stars. Your sun is just one of many stars in your own galaxy. In other ways you appreciate beautiful landscapes at sunrises and sunsets. You view the beautiful spring flowers and fall leaves. Even when you look at your own bodies, you see how you are wonderfully made, and everything is made originally perfect in My eyes. It is man’s pride that has deformed things with the manipulation of the DNA that I made perfectly.When you look at the animals and plants, they all give glory to Me in their very existence. I have made mankind in My image in giving you free will to follow My mission for your life, or your own way. If you follow Me, then you will be giving glory and worship to Me out of love. You can be in harmony with all of My creation, or you can reject Me. This is your choice. I prefer My creatures to come to Me out of love because I love all of you whether you are with Me or not. There are consequences though of your decisions. If you abide by My Commandments and allow Me to be the Master of your life, then you can be assured of a place in heaven with the One who loves you. If you reject Me, and disobey My laws of love, then you are on the broad road to hell where you could live in torment forever in hell with the devil who hates you. Heaven and hell are your only choices, so lead your life accordingly. I struggle every day to save souls from hell, but I cannot force them to love Me. The devil also is struggling to steal souls away from Me through his lies and temptations. This is the battle for souls and you would prefer to be in My territory of love, rather than the devil’s territory of hate. Fight to save your soul and the souls around you so you can be with Me in heaven.”
The real problem is to explain how this matter and even the universe came into being from nothing.
September 26, 2015 Jesus said: “My people, explaining My existence requires an understanding of how things or persons have a first cause. You can take material things and make an art form where you are the cause of its shape. The real problem is to explain how this matter and even the universe came into being from nothing. I am the only true Cause of how anything comes into being, and it is My desire that such things continue to exist. Things and the universe cannot be formed out of chaos by chance, because there is order and beauty to everything in existence. This order also has to have a cause, and it is from My mind because I can do the impossible. It is difficult to convince an atheist of My existence because they cannot understand My love when I died for all of you on the cross. I also perform miracles of healing to let you know I am with you. Many of you have love relationships with Me, and this would not happen if I did not exist. I do exist, and you have to trust My Word in faith that I am the First Cause of everything that I have created. I am watching over all of you, and I give you guardian angels to help protect you from the evil one. When you call on Me in prayer, I act out of love to answer what is best for your soul and the souls of others. So trust in Me for all that you need and follow My laws, and you will have My reward in heaven.”